Galloping Cats

Hopefully my last post on breast feeding ever October 11, 2006

Filed under: I hate breast feeding — gallopingcats @ 10:41 am

I’m putting this out there because I think there’s so much coverage of what a lovely experience breast feeding can be, and on the occasions that you do hear the other side, people tend to write about how it was hard at first, but they’re glad they kept going. Or else someone writes something like “breasts are for my husband, not my baby” and things spin off in another direction entirely.

As you probably recall, I hated breast feeding. I had my share of real problems– cracked and bleeding nipples, bacterial and yeast infections, and a near constant supply of blocked ducts, all of which I found unbelievably painful. I gave it up at four weeks, but plenty of people have persevered through those things and worse.

The truth is that I’ve never liked the idea of breast feeding, long before I had a baby. I never anticipated that this activity would bring me closer to my child. I didn’t want to be physically tied in that way. Seeing my sister hooked up to a pump was such a dehumanizing vision, I never wanted to do it. When people talked about their breasts being left saggy and deflated when they stopped, I wanted to avoid that. (Not that I did avoid that!) When my OB, told of the pain at my two week follow-up, mentioned that it took a while for calluses to build up, I was horrified by the idea of calluses on my nipples. (Does this really happen?) On demand feeding, letting a baby use my nipple as a pacifier, or being unable to sleep without it in his mouth disgusted me. The idea of breast feeding an older baby, much less a toddler, one who was aware of and specifically interested in my breasts, skeeved me out. While I always intended to give it a try, I never intended to do it beyond three or, at the outside, six months.

Even though I pay lip service to breast is best, I actually believe it makes only a fractional difference. Gatito (knock on wood) is a healthy, sturdy boy, and I have no reason to believe he won’t be smart, too. If he weren’t healthy and smart, I doubt breast feeding would have done much unless maybe he was allergic to formula. I had always wondered about whether or not studies claiming breast milk make babies smarter or healthier accounted for factors like parents’ intelligence, health, socioeconomic class, etc., when I read about them in the paper, but I never looked too deeply. Then I read this, the first study that I’ve personally seen that looks specifically at those factors, and what do you know? According to this, sure, breast fed babies have higher IQs, but that’s because breast feeding moms skew higher!

All of the recent news coverage and, of course, my blog contact with new moms, have meant that even when I moved on to formula (happily, oh so happily), it still nags at me. And here’s the thing that nags the most: Whenever people write about it, they usually give some sub-segment of the population an “out”. Most people say something along the lines of not wanting to make people who couldn’t breast feed feel badly. The people to whom these articles and posts refer, are most often those who could not produce enough milk or who had to take some serious drugs.

Never ever ever do I hear people get an “out” simply for not liking it, for being miserable. (I did get that kind of support in my comments here at the time, as well as in real life– I just don’t see this kind of support available publicly.) In a recent email conversation with
another blogger* who, for the record, successfully breast fed her child, she described the public push for breast feeding nomatterwhat as anti-woman, despite the fact that it’s perpetuated most by women. And boy did that hit home with me, because that is just how it feels. Like a woman is supposed to trade her happiness and sanity and give
herself entirely over to her child.

That makes me mad because, as any of my regular readers know, nobody could love or care for her child more than I do for Gatito. I have happily scarified dinners and movies with my husband and my friends, sleeping in on the weekends, and my financial security for this child, and I will continue to do this and much more for the rest of my life. But I’m still a person, too, and my happiness still matters, too, and breast feeding made me miserable. No woman should need more of an “out” than that.

*I don’t know if she would want to be identified, so I’m leaving the reference anonymous unless she tells me otherwise.

 

26 Responses to “Hopefully my last post on breast feeding ever”

  1. Bree Says:

    What a relief to find your blog!! My daughter (my second) was born last week and I have been feeling extremely guilty for not sticking with the breastfeeding. I gave it a good shot in the hospital and had bleeding nipples on day 2. It was wonderful to find a site from someone who hated it and wanted to share. Especially since your last post was today. Thanks so much for helping me know that I am not alone.

    –Bree

  2. JK Says:

    You said…

    I was horrified by the idea of calluses on my nipples. (Does this really happen?)

    My reply…
    No calluses here and I’ve been breastfeeding for almost 5 years straight now (3 kids, 4 month break). You probably think I’m a freak huh? I’m not. Breastfeeding just worked.

    Other thoughts…
    You gotta do what works for you and your family. You can’t feel guilty about it. Maternal well-being is a huge thing. You know the saying, “If Momma aint happy, aint nobody happy?” It is true. It is also a predictor of cognitive achievement. Momma should be happy!
    :-)

  3. JK Says:

    Two other thoughts…

    Apparently it’s just the changes in your breast in pregnancy that cause the sagging…. But if you’re never pregnant, just getting older causes the same sagging (according to one very dear friend who is hitting 50 soon).

    Just yesterday, my husband told me how he was looking forward to me stopping breastfeeding. Not as in, “Quit NOW.” But I said, “I probably won’t be breastfeeding a year from now.” He said, “Good God, I hope not.”

    Heh.

  4. maggie Says:

    My mother did not breastfeed any of her kids (four girls) and we are all really smart. Just being honest! I agree, do what you feel is right – my sister lasted 3 months with each kid she had and they are smart. They also had NO problems moving over to formula. She did not like it either. I have a friend who breast fed her son for like 3 years and he is borderline autistic. SO the reality is that no one knows and no one should judge. :) Maggie

  5. Kate Says:

    Well said, Cat.

    Amen.

  6. nancy Says:

    It’s funny you wrote this post because I was going to ask you about that very thing. Specifically, did you have high expectations of BF and then hated it later? You sound exactly like I did pre BF. I was not excited about it AT ALL, but thought it was best for the baby so I did it. The funny thing is, that I turned out to LOVE IT. I also had significant problems with blocked ducts, but those have settled down now (I get one about every 3 weeks or so now.) I never, EVER thought I would like to BF. I thought maybe it was because my expectations were so low BF that when it was better than what I thought it would be I had a positive experience. I thought maybe the reverse was true for you, but apparently not.

    Anyway … you are totally right. It is a personal choice and whatever works for you is the best choice. I don’t think you do your kid any favors by BF if you hate doing it. I think a baby could probably sense that, but who knows?

    You’re happy & healthy, Gatito is happy and healthy, everybody feels loved … it sounds like everything is just the way it is suppose to be. Yay you!

  7. daysgoby Says:

    I’m going to echo Kate and say “Well-said.”

    Other people have bungee jumped, too. Just because you didn’t, doesn’t make you less of a Mother.

    Enough guilt from the press and other women!How do we make a difference to other Moms?

  8. Kristin Says:

    Hello, Cat, Galloping:

    I’m one of those “persevered through excruciating thrush” people, and you know what I think? You hit the nail on the head in the post when you signed off breastfeeding, saying you wanted to concentrate on enjoying your baby. You found the balance that worked best for you, and you had the courage to do what you needed to do to create the best relationship you could for you and your child. Breastfeeding in the face of challenges can be an act of perseverence and courage…but my husband might say it’s been an exercise in sheer stubbornness on my part. Continuing might also have been an act of cowardice for me: maybe I didn’t have the guts to stop. If I’d stopped, I would have felt like I had to explain why, and that would have meant admitting that I was, to some extent, choosing me…even though I knew that stopping might also help me relax, might improve my connection with my husband (who was having a hard time watching me be in pain, sad and angry 8 times a day), and might foster a relationship with my baby when I wasn’t always worried about the next feeding; stopping might have meant choosing to privilege my family as a whole, baby included, by removing some major stress from our lives. (So, of course, I also kept having to explain why I was continuing when it hurt so badly. Oh well.) My point (and I do have one) is that it’s also an act of courage to know when you need to stop, and to be able to do so in the face of such pressure. Well done, and well said.

    And callouses? No. The only time there was anything of the sort was when the latch was wrong. Once that got fixed, no rough spots or callouses. That’s guitar-playing, not breastfeeding. ;-)

  9. anna Says:

    Thank you for this. I am one who I guess had an “out” – no milk whatsoever – but when I think about it, I don’t know that BFing would have been right for me anyway. I enjoy having my freedom, so to speak, and the relationship Andrew has with his daddy is PRICELESS – and that only happened because Chris was able to stay up and take the midnight feedings, let me go run errands while he enjoyed Andrew, etc. Couldn’t have happened if I were BFing.
    OK, I think I need to go blog about this now. :)

  10. dee Says:

    Well written my friend, well written. I too thought I’d give breast feeding a shot; I mean, I’d heard and read lots of “breast is best” materials and thought I’d give it a shot because a) what if it worked for us and b) it was part of the whole ‘first-time’ pregnancy/birth/motherhood experience.

    Yeah, so much for that. Like you, I was utterly miserable. We could find no reason for our difficulties, the lactation consultant I met with repeatedly said all appeared good. But still, it was hell. And I couldn’t do it any longer than 6 weeks, which seemed like an eternity to me. Looking back on it now, I honestly think I’d have been much happier had we just gone to formula from the get-go.

    Now that #2 is on board, I’ve already told the husband that there’s no way I’m breastfeeding when she gets here. Can you believe he actually pulled that “Not even the early stuff, the colostrum, or a few weeks’ worth like you did with J?”

    I actually asked him not to try to guilt me into doing it by way of such comments. The 6 weeks that I managed to last with J were so miserable, so interminable, that I was unable to enjoy those early precious days. I refuse to go there again. Doing it for as long (or as short) as I did taught me that it wasn’t for me. And that’s just fine by me. I’m no less of a mom or a woman and it doesn’t mean that I love my child any less than a breastfeeding mom love hers.

    I appreciated your honesty when you originally posted on this subject and I appreciate it now. Makes me feel like less of an anomaly.

  11. Suz Says:

    Hmmm…I don’t know. It irks me beyond belief when people cite all stats about breast feeding being better and then say how hard it was at first …. but they perservered and aren’t they so glad. And then they turn around to give some of us an out for the reasons you mentioned. In that context, the out sounds cheap. It sounds like “I hacked it and you couldn’t.” Quite frankly, it really drives me nuts and I would rather that it was left out entirely. That’s my two cents ;-)

  12. Frances Says:

    Bravo Dahling! I think the prevailing BF mindset out there borders on hysteria, provoking a herd mentality. If Baby Gatito could choose, I guarantee he’d take the formula just to feel your good vibes – to see you smile and relaxed and happy at feeding time. You did the right thing, and if any of those pro-breast tyrants tell you otherwise just send them to me.

  13. Roxanne Says:

    Oh man…you know I’ve got to comment on this one (but I’m using a weird keyboard…so typing is hard). I know I’m not the blogger you’re talking about, because I did not end up bfing for longer than 3 weeks, but I wrote about this very thing months ago…the anti-woman sentiment.

    What really irks me is the “you have to do what’s best for your baby” thing. BFing is better for the baby, so therefore your needs as a woman are completely unimportant, and if they are more important in that case,then you are just a selfish woman who didn’t deserve to have a baby.

    For myself, I personally never felt strongly either way about bfing. I knew it was good for the baby, so I wanted to do it. But I never romanticized it as a bonding experience (which I know for many women it is, and I’m not knocking that). I quickly found that that complete level of dependence and complete lack of freedom was stifling. But, as you said, the public push to bf is so strong that I was afraid I would damage Gideon by stopping, even though I was sinking back into depression.

    I was very glad to see that recent article. Gideon is happy and healthy and seems no worse for the wear for being on formula. But…honestly…and this is so screwed up…one of the big reasons I don’t think I ever want to have another child is because I don’t want to go through breastfeeding hell again and the guilt that will follow if I fail.

  14. Lyss Says:

    I knew I wanted to try. I wasn’t really looking forward to it, and I knew so many people that couldn’t do it, I wasn’t sure if I’d even be able to. Most of my friends hated it, but did it for 2-6 months because it’s best for baby. It was SO HARD at the beginning. I didn’t have what you had with the blocked ducts, but I did have the food issues, the double mastitis, the bleeding nipples, etc.

    I came to hate the Lechistas. I threw away my stupid La Leche League “Womanly Art of Breastfeeding” book with glee. Those ignorant fuckers and their tales of “it was really hard, but I did it.”

    I think my attachment to breastfeeding comes from my background in biology and my great belief in nature and the wonders of the human body. And the shocking realization that numbed Cory and me for days during our darkest hours of frequent diarrhea and bloody poops – that without the wonders of the internet and with Mimi’s weightloss, etc., Mimi could die. She was just wasting away. That had it been hundreds of years earlier, she might not have survived. I think Nutramigen helped her. But it made both of us, believers in evolution and biology, desparate to find a “natural” cure for her. Nutramigen was a wonder.

    But I still hold close to my heart the belief that we make milk because that’s what babies were meant to have. And because we were meant to hold small babies close, linger at their feedings and gaze at them in wonder.

    I was so mad that I missed those first couple months because of how I felt and the struggle of breastfeeding, but now I just think, “so what?” The Mimi I know now is infinitely more important to me than “enjoying” the first couple months would have been. I wouldn’t have quit breastfeeding because I know the guilt and the “what ifs” would have eaten me alive.

    I don’t think in the long term it makes that much difference, if any, but I felt like I followed the natural order of things, which is how I in large try to live my life. I AM glad I stuck with it. There WAS a tremendous payoff for me.

    I am one of those people that gives an out to other people who couldn’t or didn’t breastfeed, and I feel like I have to so I’m not a lechista. But the truth is, I don’t care what anyone else does. When Mimi has a baby, I will encourage her to breastfeed. I will encourage my friends and my cousins and my sister to breastfeed. But I won’t judge them if they don’t because I just don’t care.

    I know you and Roxanne were exhausted of trying, and you stopped, and I didn’t care. I read Aliza’s journal, Babyfruit, and she had wanted to breastfeed SO BADLY but things come up, and I do feel badly for her that it went so crappy and that she didn’t get the experience of relatively easy, exclusive breastfeeding.

    I do think, though, that people who don’t breastfeed are defensive about it, and I don’t know why. If you’re so secure in your choice, why do you keep explaining it? Why does it keep coming up? (I’m not being argumentative, just curious.) People I know who don’t breastfeed are almost apologetic when they talk about formula. I have one child who formula fed (she adopted), and she never ever ever sounded apologetic for the formula and I love her for it. I love that she let the mommy guilt go. It might sound like she had to let it go, but she didn’t (people actually try to get breastmilk here for adopted babies. I don’t know how common that is, but people do it in L.A.). And I’m so proud of her.

    I give you an out because I do not want to make you feel guilty and I do not want to increast that guilt that comes along with motherhood. Because I do not care whether you breastfed Gatito or not. He is not my baby. Everyone does what they have to do.

    Book, anyone?

  15. Cat Says:

    Well said and thanks again for providing the support needed when the time came for me to make that decision to stop. We didn’t look back and the little man has been healthy and happy ever since (not even a cold yet *knock on wood*). That transition was easier in part due to your kind words.

  16. Lyss Says:

    One friend, not one child. Sorry.

  17. Lyss Says:

    Oh, and there’s that. My food-allergic, 5-cold-survivor, breastfed baby. That is all such a load of crap. You’re a good mom. But I know you know that. I think the most important thing is being there for your kid, loving your kid, and knowing how lucky you are to have such a wonderful amazing child.

  18. I responded to Lyss by email, but wanted to respond publicly as well.

    1, As to why I keep talking about it if I feel so secure in my choice. Partly it’s *not* feeling so secure in my choice. I mean, hi, 11 months later I’m still thinking about it. *Intellectually*, I look at this healthy, dynamic child and know he’s totally fine, and I know his genetics will have a lot more to do with his health and intelligence than breast feeding ever would, but emotionally, I guess I must feel some kind of guilt and defensiveness. I think it’s a reaction to what seems to me a bombardment from the lechistas (good word!) And if I *did* feel 100% secure, I think I would still want to talk about so that others who feel bombarded and guilty might have some relief in knowing that someone else feels the same. I think many of the comments here show I achieved that.

    2, I *never* look at Mimi and think, “she was breast fed and is sick all the time and has allergies and Gatito was formula fed and is totally health, so that disproves the benefits of breast milk.” I think quite the opposite– Mimi is a child for whom breast feeding probably *did* make a difference.

  19. Melissa Says:

    I really liked breastfeeding and went to some effort to do it for as long as I did, but I wouldn’t make that choice for anybody else. I mean, I also wanted a med-free childbirth and didn’t end up having one, and I would feel like crap if people tried to make me feel bad about that.

    I guess it just seems sad that women are in for it no matter what they do. Women who formula-feed have to deal with obnoxious ad campaigns and bossy people telling them they should be breastfeeding. Women who breastfeed have to deal with people thinking it’s gross when they nurse in public or nurse a toddler. There’s no way to win!

  20. Maureen Says:

    There is really no way to “win!” Perhaps its good – no it is good that people are so passionate about their choicecs. There aren’t however, very many, who really aren’t trying to sway others’ to their point of view. If I’ve learned anything in my years as a mother, its that when I really focus on what is the best thing for my child, and listen to what my heart and what my instincts tell me, chances are good that my choice will be the right one for my child – maybe not for yours, but for mine. Hang in there – you sound like a great mom!

  21. Roxanne Says:

    I just wanted to answer Lyss. My anger/guilt/doubts come from reading too much of what the boob nazis say. I’m also a little bit angry because if I hadn’t listened to them initially it’s possible I would have been able to stick with it a little longer, for various reasons.

    No one in my personal life made me feel the least bit guilty for stopping (okay…not true…s did…but I don’t think it was really intentional). But just knowing that there were all these people out there judging my fitness as a mother based on this one thing really pissed me off. 98% of them went through nothing like I did to have a kid.

    I also think that the attitude itself is dangerous and backwards. Most of these women would label themselves feminists, yet they advocate women being treated as milk making machines. When you say that it’s a baby’s “right” to have breastmilk, that is very precarious. What about the mother’s rights? Apparently she is supposed to give them all up once she has a kid.

    I did want to point out that I have close contact with Gideon every time I give him a bottle. It is not so different from bfing in that regard. I hold him close and in my arms. So, I don’t feel like I lost anything in terms of intimacy.

    Lyss, you are certainly not the kind of person who pisses me. Swing on by m*thering.com and prepare yourself for the vitriol that you would find.

  22. Andrea Says:

    I just stumbled across your blog and I feel *much* better. Everything is so well put, and you sound like a great mom.
    I breastfeed AND give my son formula AND solids and he’s a happy and healthy 7-month-old. He’s actually very ahead-of-schedule on a lot of milestones. So I have to tell this story and vent…

    When the kidlet was about 5 months old, my husband and I decided to try a new church. So we go to church, Steven (my son) sits through the service like an angel, yadda yadda yadda. After the service this guy approaches us with a baby in his arms and starts talking. We do the standard “hi, how old is yours?” thing and it turns out that this kid is about 2 weeks younger than mine. “Great,” I think, “maybe we can do playdates,” even though his wife, who hasn’t said a word, is already staring at me accusingly. Hmmmph. So the next thing out of this guy’s mouth is “so, what does Steven eat?”
    me: Well, we haven’t quite started solids yet, so he’s still just getting the liquid stuff.
    him: You mean formula or breastmilk?
    me: Both.
    I’m getting annoyed now at the guy’s appaled facial expression and his wife’s screwed up, pursed mouth. The woman turns away and starts talking to someone else. The guy then LAUNCHES into this whole speech about how great it is that his wife exclusively breastfeeds and only works two days a week and pumps there and pumps AFTER EVERY SINGLE FEEDING, even the middle of the night feedings because his son isn’t sleeping through the night because breastmilk is so quickly digested. He’s so happy that their nanny has never had to give their son any of “that poison” when he and his wife are at work.
    By this point, my husband and I are slack-jawed. WTF??? When did this become the way to introduce yourself? It seemed like the guy asked us what we feed our son so he could find an opportunity to spew his vast knowledge of bf-ing.
    I would like to point out that the whole time the guy’s on his tirade, my son is reaching out for his son and making cute noises at him and giggling. His son, meanwhile is just sitting there like a lump, not even looking at my son. My theory is that since this woman feels it’s imperative to pump after every single feeding, she sets the kid down instead of cuddling or playing with him. I normally don’t like to compare babies – they all have their own developmental rates – but in this case I have to. I wanted to say to this guy, “Ha, looks like nurture has trumped nature this time, b*tch!”
    But I didn’t. I gritted my teeth and remained friendly through the rest of this sorry excuse for a conversation. I have since seen these people at church nearly every week and they will not even make eye contact with me or my husband. Soooo weird.
    Yeah, so today I’m at the mall with Steven, who’s now 7 months old and wants to eat, and I go to the food court and make him a bottle. Within a minute, I hear this lady explaining to her probably-3-year-old that there’s formula in that bottle and that’s what irresposible parents give their babies. (This 3-year-old is jamming her face with chicken nuggets and fries the entire time, btw.)
    I’m going to have to contend with this till Steven’s 18, right? Once he’s older and people stop badgering me about whether I breastfeed, it’ll be on to some other hot topic.
    Go on babycenter.com or ivillage.com sometime and look at the comments board under a breastfeeding or formula-feeding article. It’s insane. It’s like there’s some sort of civil war going on: breastfeeders vs. formula-feeders. It’s so completely ridiculous.

  23. Menita Says:

    I hated every single day of breastfeeding, every single time. Hated it, hated it, hated it. Did it, and both times I am certain that going through it probably contributed a great deal to my stress and subsequent PPD. This is a great post. I’ve been trying to drum up the courage to write somthing along these lines as well.

  24. Allison Says:

    Good post and comments- here’s my two cents, and Ive never seen anyone point this out, so correct me if I’m wrong. But all these ‘studies’ on the benefits of breast feeding- are they randomized, double-blind, variable-controlled STUDIES, or are they actually SURVEYS, do you think? Because I don’t think dividing a random sample of 200 kids into two groups of a hundred apiece, with one receiving formula and the other breastmilk, with both subjects and researchers uninformed as to which is which, is how it was done. Ethical considerations and all, I’d guess what we are actually talking about here are surveys, or maybe observations from doctor’s records, or something, and correlation is not causation.

  25. Margaret Says:

    I figured I’d find someone who hated breastfeeding out there. My daughter is 9 mos old and I cannot wait to wean her. This, even though I have never had blocked ducts, nipple pain or bleeding, mastitis, or any other problem. I just hate it. Even though it is more convenient than formula, always there, and I have no problem nursing in public so I’m not limited in where or when I move about the world. Even though I do believe it is best for baby and part of the “natural order of things”.

    I hate bf because of the extremely negative feelings I have, mainly in the middle of the night while nursing, feelings I take out on myself, physically, so I won’t do anything to my baby. I hate the fact that nursing is physically arousing; I don’t really need to explain that one, do I? I hate feeling things I felt when my husband touched my breasts. It frankly disgusts me. I get this weird tickling sensation, too, down my legs during bfing which makes me want to just run around till it goes away. It makes me want to throw my baby from my arms and run, but I just sit there and try so hard to keep my bad “vibes” from upsetting her. It sucks, so to speak. But, unless it gets worse, I guess I’ll stick it out for the next three months… Now I hear people recommending nursing for two years. Ack! I can’t do it. I want my freakin body back!

  26. AmyinMotown Says:

    Well I finally made it over here after following you here from Caro’s blog, but I “see” you all the time on the same blogs where I hang, so hi. And I love this post. I breastfed both my kids (still BF the baby) and it’s been, for me, hard but managable. But I have never gotten the hype about how it’s the most wonderful thing yadda yadda from the Lechists. It’s just a way to feed a baby. The preferable way, IMO or else I wouldn’t be doing it, but formula IS NOT poision and IS NOT bad for babies. Which makes me sound all lechists because it’s not like moms who choose not to are willingly and callously giving their babies second rate food; like you said, there are a lot of factors that go into how you choose to feed your baby and wanting your body back is valid. What matters is that they get fed and loved.

    And as several people have pointed out, the days of propping a bottle and walking off are long over — every bottle fed baby I know gets loved and hugged and caressed just as much as a breastfed one. I love it when I give my son bottles, actually (which, I should note, contain formula) because I can look in his eyes, which I can’t do breastfeeding.

    Also, AAAAMMMEN about the breastfeeding Kool-Aid being anti woman. As I consider much of attachment parenting to be.

    Anyway, glad I finally visited and I will be back!


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